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[edit] July 23

[edit] Children of Rev Ralph W L Tollemache (second marriage)

1. Dora Viola G. I. de Orellana etc born 1869 2. Mabel Helmingham etc..born 1872 3. Lyonesse Matilda etc.. born 1874 4.Lyulph Ydwallo etc... born 1876 5. Lyona Decima etc...born 1878 6. Leo Quintus etc...born 1879 7. Lyonella Fredegunda etc... born 1882 8. LEONE SEXTUS etc... born 1884 9. LYONETTA EDITH etc...born 1887 10. Lyunulph Crospatrick etc... born 1892

Leone & Lyonetta were listed on your page incorrectly.

I'm Leone's eldest Granddaughter Susan F. Tollemache —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.70.245.71 (talk) 00:39, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for reporting and trying to fix this. I have swapped Leone & Lyonetta in the list of children.[1] PrimeHunter (talk) 01:46, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Vandalism on main page

I just wanted to inform that there seems to be a vandalized wiki at az.wikipedia.org/, don't know the right place to report it, so I did it here... SF007 (talk) 00:49, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

After a hell of a lot of confusion, I have fixed the vandalism and got a threat too! [2] :) « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 01:03, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
If someone on there could watch my talkpage, Grawp's abusing it... (IP 86.29.141.215) Calvin 1998 (t-c) 01:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
That was interesting, the IP was blocked by a steward. What language was that Wikipedia? « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 01:44, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Azerbaycan --> language of Azerbaijian?? On a side note, rollback seriously does need to be global - all that manual reverting gets tiresome. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 01:47, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Yes it does, so does being autoconfirmed, because having to undo the edits, and then put in a captcha (sp?) when the undo added back an external link was horrible! :) It took forever. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk ♦ contribs) @ 01:49, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
The letter C represents the sound /dʒ/ in the Turkish alphabet (and Azerbaijani is a Turkic language) so yes, Azerbaycan is Azerbaijani for Azerbaijani. Olaf Davis | Talk 14:19, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Main Page issues

Pre-emptive note for anyone recently experiencing issues with the Main Page. An error was made to MediaWiki:Common.css, which caused the page to appear blank. The issue is now resolved. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 02:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Prod an orphaned image?

How do you prod an orphaned image? I did one to Image:Chess pieces.png, and it says to not prod images. Bubba73 (talk), 02:28, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

The file is on the Commons rather than on Wikipedia locally. Someone created the page for something, leaving a bluelink here, so I deleted it, leaving the Commons image. Prod's are only used for the Mainspace, hence the error. If they're free and on the Commons, there is no need to delete orphaned images, but that's something for them to consider if you wish for deletion. Hope that helps. Best, PeterSymonds (talk) 02:33, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
OK, thanks. I didn't realize it was in Commons, I'll leave it alone. Bubba73 (talk), 02:35, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
This one Image:Chess bad bishop.png is no longer needed either. The Chess Project has replaced such images of positions with a diagram template. Can you delete it? Bubba73 (talk), 02:39, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Image deletions should probably go through WP:IFD first, someone might actually need that image. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 02:43, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Probably more trouble than it is worth. Wikipedia doesn't need it because we do chess diagrams differently now. Thanks. Bubba73 (talk), 15:24, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How up to date / accurate is Help:Category?

How up to date and accurate is the information in Help:Category?

It does not seem to mention the construct:

[[Category:category name |sort position text |text to appear on category page]]

It seems to have it wrong on categorisation by template inclusion, which DOES trickle though in the background, and is NOT dependant on page re-edits.

There are a non trivial number of red links.

Or have I missed something ?

Peet Ern (talk) 03:14, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I try tried here [[Category:Test category|sort position text |text to appear on category page]], but it does not seem to work, is this something new? --Patrick (talk) 04:36, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
A better place to ask this question would be on WP:VPT. I tried searching there with {{Google custom}}:
Search the Village pump (technical) for: category sort key text to appear 2008
but nothing came up with that particular search which seems to relate to this feature you mention. Of course this does not eliminate the possibility that someone discussed the feature using different synonyms. --Teratornis (talk) 17:15, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Looks like a furfy - See Georgia Capitol Police on Category:Specialist police departments of the United States which is not actually an article page but a redirect page. The actual page has the above, but ignored, category construct in it. Ronnam (talk) 12:46, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Where is the list of templates?

If I want someone to explain an unusual word in their edit, where is the list of templates for me to find the explain template? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaiwhakahaere (talk • contribs)

Possibly {{Clarifyme}}? Found this on Wikipedia:Template messages/Cleanup which I accessed via Wikipedia:Template messages.--217.171.129.71 (talk) 04:09, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Hmm...sorry, I hadn't realised until now there was an {{explain}} template. Odd that I can't find it on any relevant list of templates.--217.171.129.71 (talk) 04:20, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
{{Google custom}} does not find any documentation of the {{Explain}} template there:
That is almost certainly because {{Explain}} is not a messagebox template. Instead it generates Mouseover text. --Teratornis (talk) 17:22, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Password reset requests

I've been receiving temporary password emails for my account every once in a while, and was wondering whether this was a common sort of attack, or if it is something that is only directed against my account (which was usurped a while ago). --Constantine (talk) 04:16, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

I've never really heard of it, even though I suppose it's possible if you're a popular user for vandals :) Calvin 1998 (t-c) 04:19, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, it's a fairly common tactic from some disruptive users. It's rather annoying but there's no real danger. Raven4x4x (talk) 04:23, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] article title capitalization

Is it possible to change the capitalization of an article title after it has been created? I created an article entitled "Tunelab Music" and I would like to modify the title to "TuneLab Music" with a capital L. Is that possible once the article has been created?

thanks, Sox5452 (talk) 04:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

At the top of the article there are tabs for the following:
  • Article
  • Discussion
  • Edit this page
  • History
  • Move
  • Watch
Voilà! − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 04:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
We use "Move" because that's what it technically is: the server is moving the page data from one title to another, it means the same thing as Rename though. Just click the tab, enter your new title and reason, and it'll rename you're article, making the old page a redirect to the old one. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 05:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
The "move" tab will appear when your account is autoconfirmed, meaning it it is at least 4 days old and has made at least 10 edits. Until then (2 days left for you) you cannot move pages, but somebody else has done it for you. PrimeHunter (talk) 11:18, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] WELDING TECHNOLOGY

WHAT ARE THE ADVANTAGES OF DOUBLE WELDING OVER SINGLE WELDING FOR DOING 360* SPERICAL SHEET METAL CONSTUCTION.MANISH —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.212.3.226 (talk) 06:42, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Hello. This page you have posted to is for questions about using Wikipedia, as announced prominently at the top of the page. For knowledge questions such as yours, please visit the miscellaneous section of the reference desk. By the way, by long standing convention, typing in all caps on the Internet is considered shouting.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 11:06, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Edit Peru Page

Minor edit needed to Peru page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peru

Population density indicates that Peru is ranked 183rd. It's actually 193rd as listed on the "List of countries by population density" page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_population_density

I spent a significant amount of time looking for a way to make this edit on my own. I'm very new to this. Can one not edit protected/semi-protected pages?

Let me know and I'll make the appropriate edit to the edit pages and protection policy pages.

Of course, maybe I just missed it. In that case, my apologies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chiefiemh (talk • contribs) 14:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

In order to edit semi-protected pages, your account needs to be auto-confirmed, which means you need to be active for at least 4 days and have made at least ten edits. I can make the change for you, if you'd like. I hope this helps! TN‑X-Man 14:25, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Tiny plastic Grey Knight has done it. Algebraist 14:26, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Teamwork! :-D --tiny plastic Grey Knight ⊖ 14:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Nice. Thanks for the info.

[edit] Quick look up Number of train station in specific area is created

How to quick look up for number of trian station in specific articles created, without manual very slow calcalte? Can category available to see?

e.g. How many train stations in China or Japan? How has percentage of Article related to a train station in China has already created? Thanks very much. RushdimIDlike (talk) 14:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

You might be able to do something like this with one of the tools under WP:EIW#fff1ff. --Teratornis (talk) 17:08, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Portal:Afghanistan

I just made Portal:Afghanistan and it seems to be going fine. Just a few more things to do and it would be acceptable. However, I don't know how to change the colour of the title bar at the top of the boxes. It also seems that the wikiprojects section won't go in to the right hand side column. Thank you. Sepasgozaram!Ardeshire Babakan (talk) 15:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

You can edit the title bar properties on Portal:Afghanistan/box-header. Let me go look at the column problem. --tiny plastic Grey Knight ⊖ 15:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Well, I got it on the right-hand-side, but there's a space above it because of how your boxes are laid out; do you want me to help you rearrange them any or is it OK now? --tiny plastic Grey Knight ⊖ 16:03, 23 July 2008 (UTC)


If you could fix it by rearranging the boxes then great! thanks!Ardeshire Babakan (talk) 16:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Show/hide box

I have a large amount of userboxes on my page, so I am looking for either of the following to save space:

  • A box that "hides" the userboxes unless "show" is clicked, to conserve room on the page;
  • A box that holds all the UBXs and is able to scroll up and down.

Thanks in advance, —Mizu onna sango15Discuss 16:07, 23 July 2008 (UTC).

There are loads of different types but no list we can present you...Best thing is to nab one off somebody elses page. --Cameron* 16:17, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
I would have, had I known any users that had one on there. —Mizu onna sango15Discuss 16:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
You can use Template:hidden:
Userboxes
Jkasd 17:06, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
I've just scribbled together this example if it helps...? GBT/C 17:08, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Thank you, that's what I needed! —Mizu onna sango15Hello! 21:27, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] help

✔ Resolved.

Answer at my talk page. how do you get an article bot~~Sealim~~ (talk) —Preceding undated comment was added at 17:22, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Xenocidic is discussing this with the user on their talk page. TN‑X-Man 18:38, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Job Posting site?

is there a place to post job openings on this site? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anita wambaugh (talk • contribs) 17:43, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

No. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a job posting site. Algebraist 17:48, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Try craigslist, monster.com, jobs.com, careerbuilder.com to name a few. – ukexpat (talk) 18:08, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Unconfirmed user after 6 days

I would like to upload an image to the page titled "Jack Speer". It belongs to Ruth Speer, the widow of Jack Speer, and I am acting on her behalf to add it to Wikipedia.

I have been having a very frustrating experience and have searched the FAQs as well as uploaded the image to WikiCommons (only to have it disappear a day later). I have waited for my account to become authorized, and as yet am still not allowed to upload the image.

Someone has told me that Wikipedia provides a service where experienced users help inexperienced users to make certain kinds of edits. I cannot find that service anywhere, although I would very much like to take advantage of it.

Please let me know if there is a specific reason I am not authorized to upload images. I would like to address it as quickly as possible.

Best Regards, J.A. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abercrombiej (talk • contribs) 19:17, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

Autoconfirmed status now requires ten edits as well as a four-day-old account. You need to make six more edits to be authorized to upload images. Algebraist 19:24, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
The service you may be looking for (where experienced users help new users) is probably Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User. − Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 00:48, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] children protective services

I want to read atricles about department of children protective services in Tennessee and ask questions to other members how can I do that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamamom64 (talk • contribs) — Iamamom64 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.

The Child Protective Services Division of the Tennessee Department of Children's Services is not a notable enough organization to have an article in Wikipedia. I would suggest you check via a search engine such as Google, which will lead you to their official page] and to articles by their supporters and critics. --Orange Mike | Talk 20:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] July 24

[edit] how to create a wikipedia page

how do you create a wikipedia page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ausie101 (talk • contribs) 01:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

First, search Wikipedia to make sure Wikipedia does not have an article on the subject. If the article does not exist, you can click the red link at the top of the page to create your article. Be sure to cite sources, and avoid writing articles about yourself, your friends, the company you work for, etc. You can also look at this page for more guidelines. Happy editing! RJaguar3 | u | t 02:00, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] How to report a wiki user who is deleting content?

The user http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:RainbowOfLight has deleted a external link which I have posted. My link is not any form of advertisement. I posted a link for more information of the Toyota Corolla Axio. The link is www.clubaxio.com. How can I report this user? I could not find any link to report such users. I assume if a user deleted content randomly then he should be blocked from editing Wikipedia. --Shorty23sin (talk) 05:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I'm inclined to agree with her. See your talk page. Wikipedia is not a repository of links, and I don't see how this page is any more notable than countless other webpages. A link to the Toyota website, as it is the manufacturer, would be appropriate, but a fan site would not be. DaRkAgE7[Talk] 05:50, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Hm. OK understand your point. But is Wikipedia not all about information as well? Have a look on the Toyota Wish page. They also have some links to fanpages which provide information. Can you answer me how I can report a user from vandalising? If you have a look on his or her userpage there seemed to be more then one argument. --Shorty23sin (talk) 05:59, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
There have been no complaints about me deleting posts from my own talk page (which is acceptable to policy), nor content from other articles (outside of vandalism). I think what this user is looking at is the WikiDefcon on my userpage where it says the current Wikipedia vandalism level is 3. (For any other editors, this user is upset that I reverted his/her link here. [3]) RainbowOfLight Talk 06:08, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Keep in mind Wikipedia can be edited, literally, by anyone. While we try to keep it at a certain encyclopedic quality, sometimes things slip through the cracks. I suggest you read the external links article, and then be bold and fix it, if it has problems. Wikipedia is about knowledge, yes, but not about free advertising. I think the external links article is quite informative here. Also, while I'm not too horribly fond of users that keep their talk page clear, think of it as a work desk: it's not always good to have a cluttered workspace. It looks to me like she's just trying to help, so I would certainly take a few deep breaths before worrying myself about reporting her for vandalism. DaRkAgE7[Talk] 06:12, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
This user is now upset, on his own talk page, that Adolphus has removed the spammy links (which Shorty23sin did not post) from the Toyota WISH article. It seems that Shorty23sin does not understand that some deletions are okay on Wikipedia. RainbowOfLight Talk 06:20, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
OK forget it. Checked the link explanation page now. Also found how to report vandalising. --Shorty23sin (talk) 06:27, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Help with templates and translation.

Hi, I'm from a foreign Wikipedia. I'm translating an article from my native language, I will publish it tomorrow, firstlye, I need to know if I need to indicate that it's a translation from a http://es.wikipedia.org article, and the secondly, is there a template (in this Wikipedia) I can use to indicate that maybe "this article needs to be reviewed due to possible orthographic mistakes"? becuase there is one in my Wikipedia, but I can't find the English template of it. Thank you. Do you mind answering me here? EmilioPin's .es Wikipedia discussion —Preceding unsigned comment added by EmilioPin (talk • contribs) 06:46, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Per the GFDL requirements, it's probably sufficient to use as the edit summary for the article creation something like, translated from [[:es:PAGENAME]]. As for the template, you could use {{RoughTranslation}} or {{Cleanup-translation}}, depending on the severity, but I'm going to guess it would be the latter. Someguy1221 (talk) 06:58, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Moreover you could post it on Wikipedia:Translation/*/Lang/es. — Navy  Blue  formerly iDosh 22:37, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] mail address

i wanted to know the e-mail id of sanjeev rao —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.138.99.194 (talk) 08:08, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

This page you are posting to is about questions related to using Wikipedia. We do have a reference desk where knowledge questions are welcomed. However, a simple Google search of the name reveals multiple sites showing a person of the same name and their email address. I have no idea if these results are for the actual person you intend or another/others by the same name.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 09:55, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Reporting a bug?

Hi there,

How do i report a bug about wikipedia table format?--Andrewcrawford (talk) 09:59, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

If you describe the problem here we'll try to see if it's a "bug" or just an "unexpected feature". ;-) Otherwise there's a BugZilla for MediaWiki somewhere or other, I'm sure someone here knows. --tiny plastic Grey Knight ⊖ 12:17, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Not surprisingly, the links to it can be found at WP:BUG. (But I agree that we should triage before a bug report is made.) -- ShinmaWa(talk) 13:29, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Ok i have noticed that on articles like list of freesat channesl etc, they have coloum sorting, but if you have coloum sorting and a row use rowspan then it breaks for some reasons.--Andrewcrawford (talk) 18:50, 24 July 2008 (UTC) if you like i cna provide a exampel fo the table here
Already reported as bug 8028 70.1.178.29 (talk) 22:54, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Venus Williams (edit 'war')

Hello!

I have repeatedly tried to edit the Venus Williams entry [from IP address (80.0.41.117] with a full and detailed description of her PLAYING STYLE (section title). The previous description (which now incorporates parts of mine) is (was) fragmentary and poorly written - i fleshed out the entire section, providing statistics which have been fully researched. Sadly, the previous user keeps editing it back to verion closer (to what i imagine) was their own..

I should explain that i am a tennis writer, with in-depth knowledge of both ATP and WTA players playing styles. I also have a through knowledge of modern technique as i play to a high level myself. I can attach (supply) a published article, if anyone at the help desk would like to read it(?)


To make just point (concerning the original content), the proposition in the sentence "William's serve is among the most powerful on the women's tour", is rather weak and lacks weight.... It's a little like saying "Margaret Thatcher was one of the first [sic] female Prime Ministers in the United Kingdom" (!)


Venus Williams' serve is not 'among' the most powerful - it is *the fastest* (= 'most powerful") on the women's Tour, in terms of

a.) average first speed - by wide margin b.) fastest recorded serve

Also, her second average/fastest serve speeds to to be higher than any other woman on the Tour.


Thus, i provide clarification/correction - and added weight - to the statement, and approached the whole section in this manner.


Most people who follow tennis knows this (or are aware of the fact).... if you survey tournament statistics, week-in, week-out (as i do), it is a conspicuous fact.


I am not a 'fan' of Venus Williams per se; i follow professional tennis throughout the whole year.

Christopher Rourke



Here is my (completely) re-written version of the section:


extensive rewrite with factual and statistical data provided (checked and re-checked); technical clean-up of article.


Details about the proposed changes are hidden below.


Generally speaking, whilst a page is protected from editing discussion about proposed changes is moved to its talk page - in this instance you can find that at Talk:Venus Williams. That would be the best place to discuss your proposed edits. GBT/C 12:03, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
I think your main issue is that you are not provided sources. User:Tennis expert says in his edit summary that your content is, among other things, uncited. See WP:CITE for information on citing sources within an article. You might also consider creating an account, there are many benifits including not displaying your IP address. Regardless, this is your choice. Scottydude talk 14:22, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
In addition to WP:CITE, see WP:FOOT, WP:V, WP:RS, WP:NOR, WP:CITET, WP:BIO, and WP:BLP. Several aspects of Wikipedia tend to surprise new users, especially the fact that on Wikipedia, what is "true" matters less than what we can reliably source. The problem with "truth" is that many people disagree about many aspects of what is true. But anyone who can read can agree on whether a particular published source makes a particular claim. Also note that Venus Williams is currently alive, so it is extra important to provide sources for any claims we make about her. See WP:BIO and WP:BLP. Given the fame of Venus Williams, it's possible someone has published reliably about her playing style. We can google for clues:
which finds this potentially reliable source that documents a 126 MPH serve by Venus:
Finally, see WP:EIW#f1f1ff. --Teratornis (talk) 17:05, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] edit visible when logged in but not visible otherwise

I'm puzzled over an oddity, hope you can help. Yesterday I added a comment to the Talk:Holocene calendar page. It seemed to add normally. Today, I went to view the page from another computer. I was not logged on to Wikipedia. The comment was not there. However, when I clicked on the history tab the system seemed to think my comment was there, and it was visible by clicking on the date link in the history tab - ie this link. Also, when I logged in to ask this question, the comment appeared once again on the talk page. I'm sure it is not a cache issue, since I am on a different computer. And I don't think it can be a formatting error, since the change *is* visible when I'm logged in. Any ideas what's up and can it be fixed? WikiJedits (talk) 14:28, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

It probably is a caching issue, at the server end. The servers keep http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Help_desk&action=edit&section=43separate caches for logged-out and logged-in users. I've purged the server cache, which should solve it. Algebraist 14:42, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
That did indeed, thanks Algebraist. In future, would it just be a matter of waiting longer for the servers to update themselves? WikiJedits (talk) 14:47, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Either that or purging. Algebraist 14:56, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
If you look in the "Gadgets" tab of Special:Preferences, there is a User Interface gadget that adds a little UTC clock in the top-right corner of your screen, which purges the current page when you click on it. This is pretty convenient! :-) --tiny plastic Grey Knight ⊖ 15:01, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Started articles

Is there a place where one can see a list of only the new articles/redirects oneself has started? I can't find it in "my contributions", for example. FunkMonk (talk) 14:41, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject edit counters reveals that this tool is what you're after. Algebraist 14:43, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Another way is to type in your username in the box at Special:NewPages to see this page. this will show you the edits you have made to the new pages, including edits shortly after the page was created. Scottydude talk 14:45, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
NewPages only shows fairly new pages, though. Algebraist 14:54, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Login email

I'm a new member and I registered. By the time I went to my email to verify my membership, your code had run out of time and would not respond to my clicks. I asked for another one, but was told that I could only get one in 24 hours. Help please: chrisdog0304. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.196.86.130 (talk) 14:44, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the confirmation email is valid for only 24 hours. The link should work, if not, you can try copying the URL directly into your browser. If clicking the link provided in the email doesn't do anything, there must be a problem with your email client, as the link itself has nothing to do with the expiration: if the link has expired, it'll still work, just the page you go to will display an error message saying the email has expired. Calvin 1998 (t-c) 14:51, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Second opinion

I am currently engaged in a debate / edit war with what appears to be either one anonymous user who logs in from multiple IPs or several close friends. The article in question is Battle of Szigetvár, where one or several Croatian nationalists are trying to remove any mention of Hungarians from the article. After several attempts to get start a discussion on the talk page, they have posted some comments. I have replied, and have continued to revert the page back to its original form, until some resolution can be reached.

The comment on the talk page promised that if I continue to revert, more Croatians will be "alerted" to "what is going on here." However, I want to both uphold the original version of the page until some resolution has been reached, and am afraid that if I stop reverting then they will no longer post on the discussion page. However, I am now skirting 3RR. While I am avoiding making more than three reverts in any 24-hour period, this is definitely an edit war and not obeying the spirit of the law. I am not, however, trying to be a disruptive editor -- just want to continue to discuss reasons for editing the article one way or the other, and to uphold the status quo until a solution is found, one way or the other. Since all the Croatian edits so far have been anonymous, semi-protecting the page could end the edit war immediately, but it seems like it would be too drastic of a move to make so soon.

Would anyone have any thoughts on what to do next? Or whether I am breaking 3RR or not? Or perhaps whether I SHOULD break 3RR, if the need arises? Would there be any admin who could perhaps oversee the situation and warn me (unofficially) if my actions are disruptive, before taking any official action? Thank you for your thoughts. Korossyl (talk) 15:22, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

I should add -- the last interaction I had with the anonymous IPs was when the comment was posted on the talk page. This pattern might continue, and the issue might be moot. However, I intend (unless counciled otherwise) to continue reverting, and it is in this case that I would like to guarantee that my actions will be appropriate, before I actually do anything. As I said, I am afraid that without reverting on the page, there will be no discussion, and I am quite insistent on the status quo, until it has been resolved otherwise. Thank you. Korossyl (talk) 15:27, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Probably everything there is to know about content disputes is under WP:EIW#f2ffffe. There you will find instructions on how to handle the dispute, and if necessary to escalate it. --Teratornis (talk) 16:51, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Situation resolved itself completely -- other editor was very willing to work together and compromise. Thanks! Korossyl (talk) 05:23, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] I have been getting an error msg for almost a week, trying to create an account

After I fill in my user name and new pswd, Ikeep getting this response: I have tried about 8 times in the course of 6 days.

the msg:


Details about the error message are hidden below.


—Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.9.187.124 (talk) 16:29, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Guys, I cut out the internationalised text from that so we can see the error message more easily:

Our servers are currently experiencing a technical problem. This is probably temporary and should be fixed soon. Please try again in a few minutes.
You may be able to get further information in the #fffff1dia channel on the Freenode IRC network.
The Wikimedia Foundation is a non-profit organisation which hosts some of the most popular sites on the Internet, including Wikipedia. It has a constant need to purchase new hardware. If you would like to help, please donate.
If you report this error to the Wikimedia System Administrators, please include the details below.
Request: POST http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:UserLogin&action=submitlogin&type=signup&returnto=Main_Page, from 208.80.152.29 via sq25.wikimedia.org (squid/2.6.STABLE18) to 10.0.5.3 (10.0.5.3)
Error: ERR_ZERO_SIZE_OBJECT, errno [No Error] at Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:24:45 GMT

I'm not sure if that is much help; is this just the standard error we sometimes get when the servers are struggling or is it something new? To be honest I haven't really paid attention to the "normal" error message very much, so I'm not sure if it has ERR_ZERO_SIZE_OBJECT or not! :-) --tiny plastic Grey Knight ⊖ 08:55, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

This was a problem with the UsernameBlacklist extension. The extension has now been disabled. — Werdna • talk 05:25, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

Try clearing your browser cache. What is your username? PrimeHunter (talk) 22:00, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
Oh, is it Extension:UsernameBlacklist causing all the ERR_ZERO_SIZE_OBJECT errors upon account creation? What about the other errors, the PHP fatal errors, etc... ? Calvin 1998 (t-c) 05:53, 26 July 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Editing categories

How do I add my name to the following page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Clarkson_University_alumni

in the Pages in Category section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Barnyard69 (talk •