[edit] Procedure
[edit] How to add your nomination
[edit] Step 1 - Create subpage
Create a page to place the article on; this page needs to be a subpage of Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates. To create your own subpage, add a title for the image you want to nominate in the form below (for example Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/Memphis Blues) and click the "Create new nomination" button.
If nominating a multi-part work, such as a symphony, copy the "listen" template as necessary for each audio file, or paste in a multi-listen template if one already exists in an article.
[edit] Step 2 - Add your subpage to the candidate list
Add the newly created subpage to the top of Featured sound candidate list (direct link). Use this format: {{Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/YOURSUBPAGE}}
[edit] Step 3 - Mark your candidate!
- Add {{FSC}} to the nominated sound's page. This inserts the featured sound candidate template, to let the original contributor and other interested parties know that the sound is up for voting.
If you have problems formatting your nomination, someone else will fix it, don't worry! If you wish to simply add your nomination to this page without creating the subpage, that is OK as someone else will create the subpage. The important piece of information is the pointer to the sound, and the reason for the nomination.
[edit] Supporting and opposing
- If you think a sound would make a good featured sound, write Support followed by your reasons.
- If you think there's a problem with the nomination, write Oppose followed by your reasons. Where possible, objections should provide a specific rationale that can be addressed.
- To change your vote, strike it out (with <s>...</s>) rather than removing it.
[edit] Nominations
Place nominations in this section. Please add new nominations at the top of the list.
This is a fine example of an early Korean teuroteu (trot). One of the basic styles of popular music in South Korea, it went into disfavour for a few decades due to perceived Japanese connections (Korea was invaded by Japan in WWII), but is regaining popularity now.
As far as I can tell, we have no other examples of free-use Korean music. Indeed, the free licence on this is only possible because everyone involved with it - singer, lyricist, and composer - died tragically young, the singer at just 25 years old, and the composer and lyricist in their early forties. I think it's clear from this that all three were very talented people.
The information page has been filled out by investigative work by me, Filll, Caspian blue, and a few people that I don't believe have Wikipedia accounts [Filll - can you add some details here? You organised that part].
- I contacted a friend in Japan (He has no account in English Wikipedia I believe, but uses the screen name Michi) for assistance in translation. Although he does not speak Korean, he knows many people who speak Korean. We had extensive discussions of this song in Japanese and Korean (primarily with a Korean lady who goes by the screen name Mirei). Part of the difficulty in translating this song is that the lyrics include less well known terms that are slang words, or from a regional dialect. We translated the song into Japanese (and this translation will be forthcoming) and then from Japanese into English. I believe that Shoemaker was able to use the English translation by Caspian blue, and the English translation by Michi, Mirei and myself to compose the final English translation.--Filll (talk | wpc) 00:13, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- The translation on the page mixes elements of the Filll-Mirei-Michi translation and a rough literal translation by User:Caspian blue. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 00:30, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
This song is used in Music of South Korea and Teuroteu.
| Archived copyright discussion, long story short, it's in the public domain in America, Korea, and anywhere that uses the rule of the shorter term. |
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- What is the copyright status of the song in the USA? Zginder 2008-08-19T13:49Z (UTC)
- Rule of the shortest term puts it out of copyright. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 13:51, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- The USA does not use the rule of the shorter term. Zginder 2008-08-19T13:55Z (UTC)
- Well, it was never published in the US, so I don't see how it could have gained a US copyright. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 14:32, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Note, Zginder requested the file up for deletion without any evidence of his claim. Commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Image:박향림 오빠는 풍각쟁이.ogg--Caspian blue (talk) 04:06, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- Long story short, on Commons we managed to navigate the maze of South Korean copyright, and found out that A. recordings only stay in copyright 50 years from publication, so the recording's fine for U.S. law, and, for complicated reasons you can read on the linked copyright discussion, the lyrics and music weren't copyright in 1996 either. God, I HATE copyright law! It's eeevil! Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 00:37, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
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Our first South American nom (as far as I'm aware - certainly, if it passes, these will be our first South American featured sounds). Carmen Miranda, the girl with the tutti-fruitti hat, was one of the earliest and biggest celebrities to come out of Brazil, still well-known today, and a classic singer of samba. These two songs are from her early work in Brazil, before she moved to America, which also places them right at the start of the rise of Brazillian popular music.
While not a set as such, it seems convenient to nominate them together - they provide a wider insight to Carmen Miranda's work that way, and I think they are of similar quality.
Used in Carmen Miranda, Music of Brazil, and Samba.
- Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 10:41, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- What is its American copyright status? Zginder 2008-08-19T13:53Z (UTC)
- Rule of the shortest term puts it out of copyright. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 13:55, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- The shortest term is not used in the USA. Zginder 2008-08-19T14:13Z (UTC)
- Checking, the Brazilian copyright act was revised in 1998, so the one currently active isn't the one that applies to figure out if this regained copyright in 1996. According to commons:Template_talk:PD-Brazil-media, works before 1936 were in the public domain in 1996. Hence, these are out of copyright in America. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 10:26, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support I am convinced. Zginder 2008-08-20T22:45Z (UTC)
Beethoven's music is amazing - I'd call him my favorite classical composer - and this piece is just... great. We need some Beethoven Featured Sounds, and this is my suggestion.
At least one of the files is used in each of the following articles:
This is a bit of a procedural nomination: The first movement of "Spring" is already a featured sound, however, I think it's better to have the whole thing, instead of a sample for compositions of this type. Obviously, this doesn't mean we can't have extracts as featured sounds, but I don't see any reason why we can't have complete works either.
What I propose we do is have a new section: Multi-part works, which will give links to a subpage of the Featured sounds portal setting out the full work. This is probably a better solution than the "symbolic" promotion of only one part of a longer work, when there is no particular reason to single out that one part.
These are used in Vivaldi, and The Four Seasons (Vivaldi), possibly elsewhere.
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Appears in article Wow! signal, and was recorded by SETI in 1977. It is particularly important as it is the only sound captured to date that might be of alien origin.
- Nominate and support. diego_pmc (talk) 12:04, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- Query Is this really the Wow signal? I mean, that was a radio telescope signal that, I believe, was recorded on printouts. How was the signal brought back down to the audible range? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 04:48, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose This is not the Wow! signal. The Wow signal was received way above the range of human hearing (~1400 MHz I believe). Moreover, the signal itself was not recorded -- only its itensity was recorded, and that was recorded digitally. Madman (talk) 14:12, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
There is a wealth of pronunciations in Commons that supports the use of Wiktionary and Wikipedia. It is relevant to know how a name is pronounced natively, this can help people when they talk about a person who is from a country that is foreign to them. This name is typically mispronounced.
- Nominate and support. GerardM (talk) 06:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- Oppose - if this is featured than any other audio of a correct prountiation of a name is 'just as featured'. This kind of audio is important in an article, but just not featured material. diego_pmc (talk) 14:05, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
- Comment I think accepting a proportion of these, as a symbolic gesture of thanks for them as a whole, would be a good idea, but we might need to plan out how to handle such things a bit more. We'd want to try and get all the major contributors, for instance. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 19:02, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
Oppose: It's simply a pronunciation recording - it might meet Wiktionary's featured sound criteria (if it has any) but it isn't really up to my standards| Dendodge .. TalkContribs 18:30, 17 August 2008 (UTC)- Weak support for encyclopedic use and high quality ¡ Dendodge .. TalkContribs ! 21:51, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Ignoring subjective reasons (and I do think it's very good), this is folk metal, a major subgenre, it's by a major Bulgarian band, and the band have creative commons licenced it (!!!), making it free for us to use.
It's used on folk metal (only free-use sample on that page), Balkandji, and Probuzhdane.
An important speech. Appears at George W. Bush's first term as President of the United States and September 11, 2001 attacks.
- Conominate and support. DurovaCharge! 20:42, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support as conominator.--Filll (talk | wpc) 21:15, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support: Good quality, important recording...... Dendodge .. TalkContribs 21:16, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support. Good quality, and of great importance. bibliomaniac15 01:50, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support - can we get his 9/20/2001 speech and all of his state of the unions as well? Zginder 2008-08-19T14:08Z (UTC)
- If you like. I try to spread out these presidential addresses to avoid an appearance of partisanship. Was planning to do a Democratic speech next. DurovaCharge! 14:46, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support As Dendodge and biblopmaniac said, it's a historic speech and good quality. Useful file, too. Enigma message 17:24, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
This is a famous speech, marking the start of World War 2. The recording is currently used, along with a transcript, in Neville Chamberlain. The quality isn't perfect, but it's the best version we've got (or are going to get) and it's easy to understand what he's saying. As a historically significant, good quality recording, this deserved to be a featured sound. I have put the transcript on Wikisource - Wikisource:War with Germany declared.
This phonograph cylinder recording is our only recording of traditional Papua New Guinean folk song, and it is unlikely we'll get another. Hence, this is an important window onto the culture and music of Papua New Guinea that... really is a unique opportunity for most of us Westerners. By the way, for anyone confused by the description: German New Guinea and Papua were combined into one territory after WWI, hence Papua New Guinea.
Used in: Phonograph cylinder, Culture of Papua New Guinea, Music of Papua New Guinea
Schubert was an excellent and important composer, and, as such, I am nominating this set as my first piece of featured content. This is a whole impromptu, so nominating it as a set seems like the only reasonable way to do this. It is used in full in:
- Franz Schubert
- Impromptus (Schubert)
The main theme is also used in:
- Rosamunde
Yes, this is a pre-Edison featured sound. I bet no-one was expecting that! This was not originally intended as a recording. Édouard-Léon Scott de Martinville created his device as a sort of early oscillograph, but in the last few months, it has been discovered that it is possible to play them back anyway. The press release revealing this surprising turn of events came out in March.
It also forces me to apologise for WP:Featured sound candidates/Israel In Egypt. While I had reliable sources saying it was the earliest known surviving music, well, that's the trouble with that word "known". While Israel in Egypt remains the earliest surviving phonograph cylinder recording of music - and the earliest surviving intentional recording of music, if someone feels this new discovery should replace it, do open a delist nomination. I think it still has merit as a featured sound, but I'll argue the case there, not in a different nom.
So, again, I apologise for not being fully up to date, and I hope you'll enjoy the surprise of a pre-Edison sound file as much as I did. Thanks to User:Rama for pointing me to this. More information is available at [1].
- Nominate and support. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 13:24, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
- Weak support: The historical significance of this file makes up for the bad quality. It is the quality that weakens my support, but this can be counted as a full support vote by the closer...... Dendodge .. TalkContribs 12:00, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support I was waiting for someone to nominate this. DurovaCharge! 21:55, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
- Support even though I can not not here any human voice. Zginder 2008-08-19T00:15Z (UTC)
A pretty good recording of a patriotic song, eventually our national anthem, including a verse that is not heard in present times. Another astonishing fact is the recording was done by Margaret Woodrow Wilson, the daughter of American President Woodrow Wilson; the recording appears in Francis Scott Key (he penned the lyrics to our anthem), The Star-Spangled Banner and Margaret Woodrow Wilson, and the recording came from the Internet Archive.
[edit] Nominations for removal
Place nominations for removal in this section. Please add new nominations at the top of the list.
[edit] Older nominations
Nominations in this category are older than 14 days, and, if consensus has developed, or appears unlikely to develop if given more time, may be closed
Old nominations should be archived when they are removed from this page.
When PROMOTED, perform the following:
- Place the following text at the bottom of the WP:FSC/subpage:
- {{FSCresult|Promoted|Example.ogg}} --~~~~
- Do NOT put any other information inside the FSCresult template. It should be copied and pasted exactly.
- Move the nomination entry to the bottom of the August archive. This is done by simply moving the line {{Wikipedia:Feature sound candidates/Sound name}} from this page to the bottom of the archive.
- If the archive is empty add "{{FSCArchiveBar}}" to the top of the archive.
- Replace the {{FSC}} tag on the file description page with {{FeaturedSound|"Sound name"}} ((the "Sound name" parameter will link back to the FSC discussion)) and remove the {{FSC}} tag from any other suggested versions.
- Add the file to the appropriate section of Wikipedia:Featured sounds and update the count.
- Add the file to Template:Announcements/New featured pages (newest on top).
- Add a notice to Wikipedia:Goings-on using [[Wikipedia:Featured sound candidates/ExampleSoundName|ExampleSoundName]]
- If an alternate version of the originally nominated file is promoted, make sure that all articles contain the Featured Sound version, as opposed to the original.
- Notify the nominator with {{PromotedFSC|Examplefilename.ogg|ExampleTitle}}. Be sure to notify all co-nominators.
- Example: {{PromotedFSC|Turdus-migratorius-003.ogg|Song of the American robin}}.
- If appropriate, notify the uploader of the file as well, using {{UploadedFS|Examplefilename.ogg|ExampleTitle}}.
- Example: {{UploadedFS|Turdus-migratorius-003.ogg|Song of the American robin}}
When NOT promoted, perform the following:
- Place the following text at the bottom of the WP:FSC/subpage:
- {{FSCresult|Not promoted| }} --~~~~
- Do NOT put any other information inside the FSCresult template. It should be copied and pasted exactly.
- Move the nomination entry to the bottom of the August archive. This is done by simply moving the line {{Wikipedia:Feature sound candidates/Sound name}} from this page to the bottom of the archive.
- Remove the {{FSC}} tag from the file and any other suggested versions.
When DEMOTED, perform the following:
- Place the following text at the bottom of the WP:FSC/subpage:
- {{FSCresult|Demoted| }} --~~~~
- Do NOT put any other information inside the FSCresult template. It should be copied and pasted exactly.
- Move the nomination entry to the bottom of the August archive. This is done by simply moving the line {{Wikipedia:Feature sound candidates/Sound name}} from this page to the bottom of the archive.
- Replace the {{FeaturedSound|"Sound name"}} tag on the file with {{FormerFeaturedSound|"Sound name"}}.
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